Two Goys and a Jew

Good Torah Talk with the irrepressible iconoclast Luke Ford and Casey the Classicist. Prominent guests next week.

0:15 Sukkot.

2:15 The subject today, Andrew Joyce’s essay, The Alt Right and the Homosexual Question.

3:05 Luke opens talking about Dennis Prager’s essay from 1989, Judaism, Homosexuality and Civilization:

When Judaism demanded that all sexual activity be channeled into marriage, it changed the world. The Torah’s prohibition of non-marital sex quite simply made the creation of Western civilization possible. Societies that did not place boundaries around sexuality were stymied in their development. The subsequent dominance of the Western world can largely be attributed to the sexual revolution initiated by Judaism and later carried forward by Christianity.
 This revolution consisted of forcing the sexual genie into the marital bottle. It ensured that sex no longer dominated society, heightened male-female love and sexuality (and thereby almost alone created the possibility of love and eroticism within marriage), and began the arduous task of elevating the status of women.

8:10 Is heterosexual marriage the basis of society?

14:00 Sexual rage and its role in society.

16:05 Dennis’ sexual rage. White Sharia Now.

18:20 More Prager.

It is probably impossible for us, who live thousands of years after Judaism began this process, to perceive the extent to which undisciplined sex can dominate man’s life and the life of society. Throughout the ancient world, and up to the recent past in many parts of the world, sexuality infused virtually all of society. 

 Human sexuality, especially male sexuality, is polymorphous, or utterly wild (far more so than animal sexuality). Men have had sex with women and with men; with little girls and young boys; with a single partner and in large groups; with total strangers and immediate family members; and with a variety of domesticated animals. They have achieved orgasm with inanimate objects such as leather, shoes, and other pieces of clothing, through urinating and defecating on each other (interested readers can see a photograph of the former at select art museums exhibiting the works of the photographer Robert Mapplethorpe); by dressing in women’s garments; by watching other human beings being tortured; by fondling children of either sex; by listening to a woman’s disembodied voice (e.g., “phone sex”); and, of course, by looking at pictures of bodies or parts of bodies. 

There is little, animate or inanimate, that has not excited some men to orgasm. Of course, not all of these practices have been condoned by societies — parent-child incest and seducing another’s man’s wife have rarely been countenanced — but many have, and all illustrate what the unchanneled, or in Freudian terms, the “un-sublimated,” sex drive can lead to.

Prager is right but in the West chastity and sexual morality arise from the same evolutionary pressures that shaped other behaviors. In the West Christianity developed into a relatively strict sexual morality because of the people adopting it, as of course is true for its other aspects.

20:50 A Surviving Remnant.

36:45 Betrayal as an aspect of American life.

39:00 Shouting Africans.

41:30 The amazing turnabout of the AIDS narrative.

46:20 Bad news in the War on Frapping.

49:55 Our senior masturbation correspondent Casey reports on Harvey Weinstein.

1:26:15 Aunt Mary Wants You. The problem of homosexual recruitment.

1:28:48 Luke riles up the powerful.

1:31:40 Paddock’s motivation.

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